Each Hero Interview Has Been Machine Translated and Will Be Edited As Soon As Possible
Season 2 Episode 9&10 Marine Veteran JB Brown
Founder of Fidelis Farm Solutions
Unknown Speaker 0:00
Welcome back and Happy Saturday, what you're about to listen to is part one of an amazing story. There's happy, they're sad, there's traumatic, there's inspiring this conversation with JB and I talked nearly two hours. So I'm giving you part part of it now. And then probably the rest tomorrow, I would highly encourage you to share it with anyone you know who could benefit from it, because it's, there's just so so many insights to be had from our discussion. But I also wanted to give you some give some definitions to things that some of which I know are marine specific, some of which are just military specific, just to give a little context and definition to a few of the things that may not be really clear. So he mentioned when he goes to see his recruiter for the first time, what he's introduced us to his recruiter, and he talks about BC glasses. Now I've been told that that term has been phased out. But bc stands for birth control. And what it means what I'm referring to is the glasses that are issued during boot camp that are just so bloody ugly, that the idea is that no one would ever sleep with you. So he also mentioned having called the recruiter sir and how that might not have been the best best first impression. And the reason for that in any military person understands this, but as especially a senior enlisted person will often take a certain level of offense of being called sir, because the idea is I work for a living Now, that's not to disparage our officers, many of them are, you know, get up, get in there and work right alongside the general idea is that an enlisted person doesn't want to be confused with an officer. He mentions in boot camp being the guide. And I don't recall exactly what the guy does, but it's a leader ship position, it's coveted. And it's, you know, as you'll see from here, we're going to talk about it it's you know, was very important to him, having been awarded that position. He mentioned third phase and boot camp is a Marine Corps boot camp is three months and so third phase is the last part and your your senior level recruits you've started getting some more privileges. And so that's that's all it is. It's you're wrapping up toward the end of the end of training. He mentioned having graduated PFC meritorious Lee all recruits go in as privates. If you've had a certain amount of college, you can be awarded the rank of e to PFC, but in his case, it was through and he received a number he was awarded number of ranks meritorious Lee and that's all that means is that you don't necessarily have to spend what we call time and grade or acquire the points through physical fitness test. You've done other things that promotion, same as it would in civilian life. It but it's, you're given that rank based on your achievements, more, you understand, he mentions two things. He mentions NCT, which is marine combat training. He also mentions marine MLG, which is marine logistics group, you hear what he talks about in LG his objection to going there. And it's simply because at this point, he'd already spent a significant amount of time as a combat marine. So the idea of going back into a support role was just really uncomfortable for him. And as you'll hear him say, if he felt benched in a support role, it's like telling the quarterback that, you know, they now have to be the water boy, it's not a comfortable place to be. He mentions when, in reference to a doctor serving as PSD. And that's in other words, he was basically that doctors bodyguard, de PSD stands for personal security detail. And then the last thing in terms of terminology, he mentioned, at some point, getting his bell rung multiple times. And that's just referring to additional concussions, additional head trauma. And then there were a couple other things that occurred to me when I was editing and re listening to our conversation. And that was that, especially if we've joined voluntarily, we so often want to be where the action is, it's you've gone through all this training, it sort of feels like a waste if you if you don't use that if you don't go and put that into. And I know that when I volunteered to go to Desert Storm, my thought was, I'm a Marine, this is what I'm supposed to do. I may not get another opportunity to experiences and it had nothing to do with wanting to kill people or wanting to see death. For that matter, it was just a matter of wanting to go and experience something that not only most of the country wouldn't experience but even a significant number of your, your fellow service members don't see. And there's just some of us that have we just have that personality we have that whether you can call it a journaling junkies, you can call it thrill seekers, I don't think that really covers it. It's simply a matter of we know we can do it. And so we want to do it. And it's important that we have both types of personalities, you can have an amazing career and be great sailor, soldier, Marine, airman, Coast Guard, but never see combat. And there's nothing wrong with that we need the people who can be support roles and be comfortable in that if you're not comfortable going to combat then you shouldn't go to combat. And if you're not comfortable being a support role, then hopefully you won't get stuck in that position. Just like in civilian world. Some people are good leaders, and some people want to lead and others could, but they don't want to, we all have our own our roles. So that that was the one thing. The other thing I thought about was that you don't have to enjoy every moment of your service, there can be experiences that you would rather not had. And there can certainly be times I was only a year or so in. And I remember talking to my granddad saying, I don't want to do this anymore. And yet I got over it. And overall, I really enjoyed and I'm proud of what I did. So it doesn't you don't have to have loved every single minute to still be proud of what you did. So that being said, Here is the discussion with SRJB. Brown. He's a great personality. So please enjoy.
Unknown Speaker 6:47
Welcome back this evening, I have the pleasure of speaking with fellow marine Staff Sergeant JB Brown. And before I go too far, and well, first of all, thank you for being here today, maybe.
Unknown Speaker 7:02
That's my pleasure. I'm excited. This is really cool.
Unknown Speaker 7:06
As a way of introduction, I'm going to read a little bit of the email that you sent me now, JB and I connected through social media, I was lucky enough that we went from one of the nameless, faceless strangers that was following me. And I knew nothing about him to somebody who's now in the app. But when he created his account, I reached out to him and send him an email just, you know, welcomed him and said, you know, thank you for being here. And then tell me a little about your story. And so this was the email I got back from him, or at least part of it. He says, Hi, Don, I found you on Instagram, as I followed you pretty early. I want to support veteran owned businesses. When I looked into what you were doing, I felt moved create an account. I have struggled in the past with PTSD and depression pretty badly. I was injured in Fallujah, Iraq, during combat operations and was retired, I wanted to stay in until I couldn't go anymore. I spent 12 years in the Marine Corps. And when I was retired, I spent the next four to six years trying to figure out who I am and what my identity is. As you can imagine, the PTSD and depression hit pretty bad off often on during all this. And you go on to say that as many of us that not it's never 100% gone. But you you're here and for that I'm so thankful what I would like is for you to just tell your story. I'd like to know how you got in the Marine Corps, your path to getting there what you did, and and just what brought you and us together today?
Unknown Speaker 8:30
Yeah, absolutely. So I grew up right outside of Los Angeles and Southern California, kind of inner city. And I, when it came time for me to graduate high school and stuff like that I wasn't ready to go to college yet. I just knew that I wasn't ready. I had a girlfriend who was very important. You have to still be my wife to this day. And I wanted to be able to give her something a little bit more knowing that I wasn't gonna go to college yet. And she was already in college and decided to start looking into services. I looked in a few of the services and and I just wasn't kind of jiving with it. I wasn't feeling it. And I had a good buddy who was a Marine Sergeant, that was a few years ahead of me at high school. And I talked to him about it one day, and I said, you know, hey, I'm thinking about joining the Marine Corps. And he said, Before you do that, you know I'm gonna come over and talk to you kind of let you know what it's about. He didn't he, you know, Marines they, they keep it real. And that's what I needed. So he took me to a recruiter, buddy of his typical typical old school marine Staff Sergeant had the crew cut with the not the issue bc glasses for those of you know, those are but but he had the issue glasses and, and the first thing he says to me when I come in there, I shake his hand. And I said, Yeah, how you doing? How you doing, sir. And I think that was the wrong term. And he says, and he says straight out, he goes, if you don't want to be here, I don't want you here. I'm not in the business of sending people in the Marine Corps. They're going to get this job or this that job or, and he said, You're here to be a marine first year, this was very cultural by this is a 98 and 9899. And so I fell in love with the guy. I was already out of high school. And so I spent nearly every day there with him until I was in the delayed entry program. And I spent every day there with him. Learning, just literally learning. I mean, I learned I learned how to do cold calls. As a recruiter, I was doing stuff for him and, and stuff like that. But I was learning just everything my you know, basic rank structure, everything I could possibly just pick out of this guy's brain, I started learning because I found it just super interesting. And I wanted to kind of prepare myself for boot camp as much as you could. And it was PTM with them. And finally, in May of 99, I went to boot camp, I was in San Diego. I remember pulling up on the bus and going What the hell you know, but it lasted just literally probably 10 seconds. And it was exciting. It was hard. It was mentally hard. Not as much physically hard, but mentally hard. I really just kind of I just I enjoyed myself during that experience.
Unknown Speaker 11:12
Were you at that when you went in? I was
Unknown Speaker 11:14
I was 19 when I joined. Okay, okay. I was 19 when I joined. And like I said, I joined because I wanted to have some type of stability. But before that, before I decided sign papers, I also figured out that if I was going to join something I want to join, someone's going to challenge me. I wanted to be challenged. And I did literally the second day of boot camp. I was a guy and I was a guide for think till probably we got to third phase and I ended up getting fired, which was like a blow to my heart. You know, now we're up to Camp Pendleton. And we're in third phase shooting and stuff. And my senior drill instructor pulls me aside and he says, you know why I fired you? And I'm like, I have no idea, sir. He tells me wasn't because you weren't a good leader. He said it was just political. I get the guide and that kind of stuff. And the cool thing was is that being the guy up until that point, man I was I wasn't eating because I was the last one in the chow hall that all sudden you get your life back. Yeah, I kind of got my life back. And the cool thing was is that day, it was just him and I in the duty hot. And he decided to pull out a bag of McDonald's. He goes here I owe this to you. Oh my god, I never ate McDonald's. Fast in my life. I mean, it was just gone. And it was kind of cool. And I still graduated as a as a PFC. I graduated, you know, meritorious promotion. And and then from there. I started out originally, as a motor transport operator. Well take that back. I enlisted as a crash Fire Rescue guy. And then somehow they changed the schools over there going from Alabama to Texas or something. And it was going to be like a year delay. And there was no way I was waiting. I had already graduated boot camp. And I said, Well, I scored pretty well. I'm as bad. I'm sure I could pick a great job, good supply, cook, motor transport. What else is our admin? And I was like, nothing wrong with us MLS, is it right, right, right. And so I decided walk up motor T, right. I go motor t I graduate, a graduate undergrad out of MCT. Go to motor to school, graduate undergrad there got to pick where I wanted to go. And I initially chose Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. So I was all set to go to Cuba. I was going to go home on leave for a week. And then I get a phone call saying, hey, orders being Kate, we're going to send you to Camp Pendleton, California, which I was like, Well, I'm kind of cool with that because I grew up like an hour from there, right? And I said where are you guys standing with you? They said first Marine Division and I was like, Oh great. I get to go to now so I check in at division at this point. I have no idea where I'm going. And they said you're going to first line armor Reconnaissance Battalion Reconnaissance Battalion Like what? So I go to first le RXI check in and you know, it was just like drinking water out of a fire hoses crazy and, and the up tempo even though there was no combat. The op tempo is pretty high. Even though I still kind of a smart ass as a lance corporal. And as PFC, I still Excel pretty well. And they ended up sending me to, to heavy machine gun to school to become a 331 and at that point, I wanted to do something a little bit different anyway, so they sent me to 331 School I've finished at got a concussion there.
Unknown Speaker 14:26
But Marines have hard head back to the battalion.
Unknown Speaker 14:29
I know it was just kind of like you know, I just push through it and then and then they pulled me I think it was maybe like the second last week I got the concussion because I had a tripod basically hit me in the head, a 50 Cal tripod.
Unknown Speaker 14:43
Unknown Speaker 14:45
Yeah, I think so. I just sucked it up. I was like, you know, and then and then saw get back to get back to the TV. And it put me on the machine gun team, which is basically PSU work for the colonel there. And I was a 50 Cal on a on a Humvee. I mean, it was cool. At that point. I started just loving life. I was having a good time. I was shooting a lot. I had a started working with hazmat stuff did multiple cats and Twentynine Palms at going over fulfilled ops never got to the pool, boy, other than that, and there was a opportunity for me to get fat, you have a feat fleet assistance program to SLI. And so they sent me to us alive, I get put in with with the MCC company, I was just going to be a driver. And they found out that I was no 331, which most of those guys were 31. And so they said not we're not going to make you that we're going to make you an instructor here, even though you're a fat, right. So I became a machine gun instructor for them, which was like the time of my life. I was a corporate, Lascaux just pick up the time, you know, I mean, it was just it was great. Then I go back to my unit, I guess after nine months, and I put in for reenlistment orders to go back to MCT to become a marine combat instructor. And that's when 911 hit though everything kind of slowed down all the orders come pull back and my Lieutenant come up to me and asked me said hey, do you want to deploy with with us? And I said absolutely. Like there's no way I'm already a team leader about this. And so we go to the colonel is three of us put in our extension packages. And week later I get a notice from headquarters Marine Corps saying no, you gotta go you got to go to MCT because we're back. So my heart was and that was kind of my first experience of this kind of like a depression. Because I went to MCT went back to the company that I was with became an instructor there and work with those guys doing machine guns, still driving, watching my watching all my boys on CNN as they're invading Iraq, I got pretty bad and I was really, I had some anger issues. And I was taking it out on the on the young privates and PFC their students and stuff. And finally, I got an opportunity. Boy, I went with a buddy of mine who took the Recon in Doc, I wasn't going to take it at all. I drove them that morning, I was in PT gear and the Gunny there goes, Hey, are you taking the doc and I was like not, not do this recon thing? No way, you know, anything, you know, then he calls me out, of course. And when you call them marine out, you never back down. So I ended up taking it. I definitely wasn't physically ready for it. But I passed. He said, you know, we don't have any slots open yet. But we do have an operations chief slot open for a motor transport guy over there. They said what you can lap move and kind of go into recon as you're there. So I said yeah, absolutely. When do I gotta leave? He said, Well, if you sign these orders, you leave in four weeks. I've never seen orders move that fast in my life that took me to third recon out looking out Japan. My wife and my son time stood here in the States. And when I got there, I just told the told the Master Sergeant you send me to any school if you want anything, I don't care. I have no family. And he kind of said, you know, be careful what you and so I just started busting through schools and stuff off and became a rescue swimmer out there. That kind of thing. We got
Unknown Speaker 18:01
interrupt you hang on one here. Were you stationed at Schwab? I assume
Unknown Speaker 18:05
I was at Schwab. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 18:06
I was. I was I was that. I was northern bureau t so I covered I lived on Hanson but I covered Hanson, Courtney Schwab and the MTA so yeah. Oh, it's beautiful out there.
Unknown Speaker 18:18
I spent so much time on which time? Like To me it was like a hidden gem.
Unknown Speaker 18:24
Oh, it's amazing. The water. Are you
Unknown Speaker 18:26
like oh my god. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 18:28
I was already I was dive qualified when I but I got my open. My open. Right, my advanced open while I was there. And it was just Oh, yeah, it was absolutely amazing.
Unknown Speaker 18:37
The cool thing was I never dove before I got there. I did the pre dive program. And my neighbor in the barracks was was a dive locker chief. So we used to go out on the weekends using record here. That's awesome diving in the water. So I learned how to dive like that from a master battery, which was great. And so anyway, so we ended up getting orders to go to delusion, we're going to replace second recon, we get to Malaysia, and right are right before we get to hulu's, I get called by the first heart and said, Hey, I need to talk to you. I go in there and he says, Hey, we got this opportunity. And I think you'd be a good platoon sergeant for it. He said you'll have to duel hat. He said, but we're going to be training the Iraqi security forces. And we need a platoon sergeant for that. And I ended up meeting a young Second Lieutenant and literally just got off the boat. And so we just kind of started ramping up and training for it and got to country and it was awesome. I just it was just a great time. I think all the Marines will understand that like when you get to combat situation. I say that was my Super Bowl. Yeah, that was my Super Bowl. I had such a good time and in combat experience was was crazy. And so one night we're on our way back from an operation. We've been out for a couple weeks and and that night for some reason was a beautiful night, I just decided to sit in the back of the home. He was open back because we didn't have any of the armor stuff yet. I have on one, my radio my PR and then the other year I have my iPod going so I can hear everything that's going on with with the drive and everything. And I know we're probably bought by clicks away from the Bakhita. Felicia, when we turn on this this road called River Road, and we're gonna return it and it's about one o'clock in the morning past this little hut. And I see lights on with about eight guys in there. It was just super suspicious to me, because usually the bad guys aren't up that late, the kind of lazy and they go to sleep. And so we turn on this road, and I let the traffic clear on on the radio and the minute I go to go report it, we get hit with an IED. All I remember after that. Now, you know in retrospect I can I can see it. But right in the beginning, I didn't know I remember the heat from the blast Shockwave pushing me around. And I just remember waking up and woke up and my PR been going off my left ear. And I felt like I felt wetness and come to find out that I blew my left ear drum out. Then I put my I was kind of calm when I woke up and it's like the movies. Anytime you hear that, like when somebody gets blown up. It's kind of that that real shallow sound, you don't hear a lot of things and all sudden it just comes right back to you like that, like a boom and it comes back to you. And I wasn't freaking out. And this is a reason I wasn't freaking out in my iPod. In my ear. I had George Lopez playing I was listening to some comedy. And George Lopez voice sounds a lot like my dad.
Unknown Speaker 21:27
Oh my god,
Unknown Speaker 21:28
I think I think I made the connection. It was like, and it just kind of calmed me down. I put my radio back on. And the record in case and I'm like, Oh my God, we lost guys, whatever. So I hop up from the game, kind of sit in front of me. So he's going Browns dead Browns dead. And I'm literally leaning in the on the side of the eagles and I had to smack him and I was like, Hey, hey, and he wasn't paying attention that grabbed his I grabbed his camera harness, asshole. I'm white. I'm fine. What's going on? Give me the situation. You know, we had the vehicles behind us hit door open the back door, we're going to go run down there to go find to go see if the guys were okay. And the lights come on. You know, we're driving back out like that. And at this point, I didn't even know what was going on. I had no idea I've been hit. And so fast forward to the next morning I get on my guys bed down and I have terrible headache I can't see straight. I woke up scratching my face. And I noticed a bunch of blood on my hands. And I had pulled out a piece of shrapnel in my face. I had no idea and I got I kind of got peppered. And so I run to the to the BS and I said, Hey, they pulled a couple more pieces out. And we're like, Yeah, it looks like you might have got some stuff in there. For the next two weeks. We're grounded. We knew we weren't going out. And I just kept having these terrible headaches to the point where I ended up having to go suck it up. And I went to I went to the surgeon who was just an awesome guy and say, sir, I'm having horrible headaches, man, like this is what's going on. And they x rayed me to everything I could there. They said, Hey, you know, we're going to send you to Germany. And I said like hell you're sending me Jeremy. I'm not going anywhere. And I had to fight really, really fight to stay there. And I ended up getting to stay there because they're just like, well, we're going to monitor you. So I ended up becoming PSD for this battalion surgeon who was a Navy Captain on the line to get a star so they're like, Hey, we need to give them some PST because he's going out with a with the teams right sign up doing that. We got hit a couple more times got my bell rung saw some pretty nasty stuff out there. And like that, we get back to token out and it was like one day I was in combat. The next day. I wasn't really in retrospect, I probably should have gone and got my head checked out because I had some pretty significant and brain damage. I get back there. So my wife, my kid and my mom were there looking out waiting for me and they just noticed I was different. Everything was just kind of different. My attitude. I'm an extrovert I was I was kind of an introvert then and texted out there for a couple more couple more months they come home with me and I end up getting orders to the drill field. I go to San Diego will be a drill instructor. I noticed that I can't memorize anything like my short terms is gone. And I never had a problem with that. I wasn't struggling but I was struggling inside inside because I just wasn't me again. And I guess the blessing in disguise was post grad. I was about halfway through and I ended up blowing my knee out. They weren't keeping any broken students right. So they sent me to Quantic. So I get orders go to Quantico to weapons fill and training battalion there and I have no idea what I'm going to do. They just send me their check in and I go see medical and they're like, man, have you got another Have you gotten an MRI done or anything lately? And I said no. And so they sent me up to Walter Reed put me through like three days of testing. It come to find out my brain was still really badly bruised. It was still still inflammation. It was kind of it kind of affected my speech. Sometimes I got hit with a piece of asphalt we ended up finding out later, maybe a few days after I got hit. I got pieces. I got hit with a piece of asphalt about the size of a basketball in the back of my head. So messed up my neck to it so I was wondering was having all this neck and back pain every like dad and corsage is sucking it up running TT injury I can you know marine? Yeah, sure. I'll just run it out of my body just was constantly hurting in five, go to all three, do all that stuff. We want to keep you in this outpatient program here. We're going to transfer you up here. They transfer me out to Walter Reed. And for the first week I was a stone I wasn't saying anything. And finally I just said I gotta start kind of fixing myself because I was having horrible nightmares. I was having depression and up and down. Stuff like that stuff that I never thought would happen to me because I was in combat. But I was like your mind were
Unknown Speaker 25:45
supposed to take it. That's that's what I'm looking for. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 25:49
Like it didn't bother me while I was there. I never thought it would come back to hit me later. And it didn't hit me really bad. And so I went through this intense outpatient program ended up staying at Walter Reed for Walter Reed Bethesda for about a year, not over a year, but a year and a half and kind of faked my way through the fog, and decided I want to go back out to the fleet and fake my way through it told the doctors everything I needed to hear. I got orders back out to the fleet. And I called him on and I said hey, I want to go to first recon battalion or I want to go to one of the recommit towns and he's like, Nah, nope, I got a job for you, we're going to send you to the MLG. Right. You sent a guy who's been with division his whole life to the MLG. Just let the Recon unit who's got some major PTSD and anger issues. It's not a good mix. And I said, you know what he sent me there. So you're going to be a combat trainer paste guys basically helping those guys get ready for combat.
Unknown Speaker 26:42
It feels like being benched.
Unknown Speaker 26:45
It's it's exactly what I was just, I was bench. And so I get there. I check in and I'm just I'm really trying to play cool. And they sent me to one of the subordinate, you know, the MLG to go help them get trained up and ready to go captain and the first artist I work for a captain was with prior lyst the guy real cool guy. And the first sergeant she didn't like me at all. She didn't like me, we didn't get along. Well, she was all about all about, you know, I was basically making their their teeth, their training exercise program. I did the whole thing in about two weeks, and I got them, you know, some awesome ranges to go fire on and that stuff that they would never get this because I was pulling strings because I I knew these kids and I was like I want to put them in the best position. Right? And meanwhile, she's like, well, we can't do it this way. Because we gotta go in a classroom talking sexual harassment, we gotta do class and talk on this. And I'm like, that's all good. And I get that. But like these ranges, what if we can't lose? We're never going to get these back. Right? It's so we just started arguing back and forth. And it came to a head. We had a staff in to PME. And it came to a head. We're, we're there and she's talking. And we're in Charlie's and she's talking about combat leadership pulling myself and one other guy was with me at third recon, actually, he was a pair of pair loft guy had been in combat, Combat Action weapons at the time. And we had a bunch of brand new second lieutenants and young staff sergeants and stuff like that. And she's talking, I'm in the back, and I'm just kind of shaking my head and my buddies next to me. He's like, dude, calm down, calm down, falling. She goes, Hey, Staff Sergeant. Yes. Something to add. And everybody turns and looks at me. And I said, First Sergeant, I said, My mom always told me if I have nothing nice to say not the same thing at all, sometimes to keep my mouth shut. And she says, No, I'd love to hear what you have to add. And I said, Really? She said, Yeah, I said, How you gonna teach combat leadership when you've never had any combat experience? I go, everything that you're saying is great. And I use the mike tyson line. I said, once you get punched in the face, all that goes up. I said all your theory, all this other line we're talking about goes out the window.
Unknown Speaker 28:50
I said, so what you can do those who can't teach is Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 28:54
exactly. And so she's like, you don't know anything and blah, blah, and this kind of stuff. So I said, I will have an extra one of these and I pointed my Kombat X ray. And I said you want to borrow it? And I had to go see the MOZ sorry for that one. It's those moments Yeah, yeah. Nice to say they sent me to Woodward the time West out for that because I had an outside major as well sorry major pulled me in there. And I was I was really good with the master guns there who was the training guy who I kind of worked under anyways, I see the master guns for I go in there and he's like, just become Don't worry. And SAR major and I didn't get along really well, because he's friends with the person. I go in there. I report and, and, you know, stop until you report and they put you at ease or they put you up for a rest he can be he kept me stand in that position of attention. And so I said okay, and I'm he carries at this time and, and he stands desk and who's just staring at me. He's not saying a word. And he looks at me. He's looking at me. I said, Look at him. And he says, You're crazy, aren't you said excuse me? Crazy. I know. I know you got PTSD. I know you're jacked up, because you shouldn't be here. You're crazy. We don't need your rounder. We don't need that stuff. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So I so I proceeded to take my Chevron's off and put them on his desk. So What's that for? I said, Well, when I jumped over this desk and knock the shit out of you, you're gonna want peace and a minute I said that I lean forward kind of on the desk because I was yelling at that point. The master guns comes in and pulls me out. He says go home for the rest of the week. It was a Wednesday, as I'm leaving the Colonel's there, and Colonel talks to me, he's like what's going on? I told him he said it's inappropriate. You shouldn't said that. Don't worry, you're not going to get charged that kind of thing. Well, I take the rest of the week off, come back my dad orders to the Woodward time